How not shuffling the deck theoretically is more magical

TommySteal · 05-19-2011, 03:46 PM

I think shuffling works fine because sometimes a control can make the hands look a little awkward. But more important than method is the art of being natural. Compare these two magicians: David Copperfield and...JC Wagner. The majority of David's work relies soley on showmanship so admittedly maybe shuffling a deck would look out of place, but as for Wagner, that's what he does, that's who he is. Maybe I'm biased, but I would have no reason to question his shuffling, because he's natural. Erdnase stressed how being natural was the most important tool a cheat can posess.

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Of course placing a card into the deck and having it melt through the deck back to the top would be more magical, but let's not forget we are magicians not wizards.

la0o9 · 05-19-2011, 04:12 PM

uhm... you're talking about Shifty or a rising card gimmick? or are you questioning the whole point of an ACR routine?

Mark · 05-19-2011, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by la0o9

uhm... you're talking about Shifty or a rising card gimmick? or are you questioning the whole point of an ACR routine?

You lost me soooo badly there, haha. He just meant having a card come magically to the top, like in an ACR indeed.

TommySteal · 05-19-2011, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by la0o9

uhm... you're talking about Shifty or a rising card gimmick? or are you questioning the whole point of an ACR routine?

@la0o9 Are you replying to me? If so, I don't understand your comment. Could you elaborate?

la0o9 · 05-20-2011, 12:06 AM

card melts through the deck= Shifty card rise( search for it)/ a rising card gimmick or ACR routine?

TommySteal · 05-20-2011, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by la0o9

card melts through the deck= Shifty card rise( search for it)/ a rising card gimmick or ACR routine?

The last part of my initial post was just referring to an ACR. But as for the debate, yes, not shuffling in an ACR would theoretically be more magical.

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But kind of boring

05-19-2011, 04:12 PM	#2
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05-20-2011, 12:06 AM	#5
la0o9 Move monkey atm Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Not where you'd want to go :P Posts: 747	card melts through the deck= Shifty card rise( search for it)/ a rising card gimmick or ACR routine? __________________ "Doubt isn't the same as saying people are bad, it simply means you actually care, 100% trust is nothing more than ignorance"~ Akiyama Shinichi- Liar Game "It's not the destination but the road to it that is worth the trip" "Be careful what you wish for... it might just come true"~ old saying "It's a small world, but only relatively" "Reality is not the world, it is the way humankind depicts the world, thus when you alter a person's way of seeing the world, you alter reality itself"

05-19-2011, 03:46 PM	#1
TommySteal Tom Join Date: May 2011 Location: Italy Posts: 274	I think shuffling works fine because sometimes a control can make the hands look a little awkward. But more important than method is the art of being natural. Compare these two magicians: David Copperfield and...JC Wagner. The majority of David's work relies soley on showmanship so admittedly maybe shuffling a deck would look out of place, but as for Wagner, that's what he does, that's who he is. Maybe I'm biased, but I would have no reason to question his shuffling, because he's natural. Erdnase stressed how being natural was the most important tool a cheat can posess. ---------- Post added at 02:46 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:43 PM ---------- Of course placing a card into the deck and having it melt through the deck back to the top would be more magical, but let's not forget we are magicians not wizards.