Alex Pandrea’s Brick Pass download (The Blue Crown)

[s13zeTheDay]

In my opinion, that is not misleading. Everybody is entitled to word their advertising to entice people to buy it. I certainly knew what I was getting into when I bought it. It is in fact his interpretation, and he is revealing his own method of performing the pass.

Mark- I agree with everything you said about penguin. They really have their customers in mind, though I dislike how they now say "HIGHLY RECOMMENDED!!! NOW SHIPPING!" on everything
Though I also agree with your viewpoints on (most of) the sites listed, how else do you expect these sites to stay in business and keep providing whatever good magic is out there to people?

Finally quick comment about the VCR change. I love apollo robbins, and the change is really cool with an interesting method, but really? I'll tell you one thing- I'll never use it ever.

[Albert]

Originally Posted by s13zeTheDay

In my opinion, that is not misleading. Everybody is entitled to word their advertising to entice people to buy it. I certainly knew what I was getting into when I bought it. It is in fact his interpretation, and he is revealing his own method of performing the pass.

I have no intention of getting into an argument or a debate, but I think that can be considered misleading to less knowledgeable consumers. I bet a lot of people who bought the download at the very least expected to see something new; like a new concept for a pass. I don't have it, but from what I can tell from the testimonials, it doesn't seem like there isn't much of a new approach to doing the pass, but rather explanations of getting the pass down better from Alex's experiences.

I just don't think it is very thoughtful of them to continue to rename moves that already exists.

What I think Vanishing Inc. does a lot better than other magic dealers online is at least attempting more to keep the original form of magic alive. For example, Alex Linian and Glenn Morphew both teach the one handed top palm. I purchased Glenn's some while ago and it really is different in terms of getting into the palm. I don't have Alex Linian's but his clean-up of the palmed card is interesting and new. Nevertheless, although the method of finger positioning is different, the method is the same, and thus Vanishing Inc. and its artists tend to keep the sleights with its original name.

So I think it is respect for the original creators to keep the original name of the sleights, even if you have improved on it (unless you improved on it and it's completely differently from the original). This is why I believe it's unethically misleading.

[Mark]

Originally Posted by s13zeTheDay

Though I also agree with your viewpoints on (most of) the sites listed, how else do you expect these sites to stay in business and keep providing whatever good magic is out there to people?

Well, first they actually make most of their money with playing cards (Theory11, Dan & Dave and Ellusionist that is, and probably The Blue Crown soon too).

Second, they don't need to over-hype the effects to still be able to sell them. Most of the stores already got a very solid base of costumers who would buy the releases even if they would've named them the original ways instead.