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Old 08-20-2011, 08:12 AM   #1
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The problem is that De'Vo isn't the most honest person as well. He try to get credit for every single variation of older moves. He even make fake videos to prove it. And it's the money what motivates him, like in theor11. And if your problem is that XCM has been renamed to Cardistry, I think they have big differences. If you watch nowadays cardistry guys (like Tobias), you can see that they do things what De'Vo could never do. These are not De'Vo's one-handed displays, but two-handed 'smooth' cuts.
And I have to agree with la0o9, for example I don't know what I would do without Jason England's tutorials
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Old 08-20-2011, 08:35 AM   #2
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But what about smooth360? Fret city! Keeps me awake many a night
first of all, that's not fretting, that's just obsessed
second, i KNEW someone would try that joke the moment i finished typing

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disagree with that. Lets use the Elmsley count. Alex Elmsley created it back in the 1900's. What If I were to change it to the Kelan count? (My first name) The creator (Alex Elmsley) would be extremely annoyed (De'vo is) and it is just unethical.
yes, that would certainly be true, but that's stealing an effect and calling it your own, while what Andrei supposedly( like, i know someone changed it, but who knows who? was it REALLY Andrei? can we really believe in De'vo?) did was changing how you use a word, that have been done time and time again, an example would be the word "gay", in the past, around 30 years ago, it was used to describe being happy, now you see what it means? another would be a Vietnamese word that now translates to "things related to finance", in the past it used to mean "to teach the people and thus saving the country" (there are probably more examples, i'm just not that good at literature), so is changing the meaning of a single word THAT big a problem? it's a language, it's bound to change, and since, like you said, 9000 people have already accepted it, there's no reason to go against those 9000 and keep to the old meaning, after all, "change is good"
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Old 08-20-2011, 08:40 PM   #3
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first of all, that's not fretting, that's just obsessed
second, i KNEW someone would try that joke the moment i finished typing


yes, that would certainly be true, but that's stealing an effect and calling it your own, while what Andrei supposedly( like, i know someone changed it, but who knows who? was it REALLY Andrei? can we really believe in De'vo?) did was changing how you use a word, that have been done time and time again, an example would be the word "gay", in the past, around 30 years ago, it was used to describe being happy, now you see what it means? another would be a Vietnamese word that now translates to "things related to finance", in the past it used to mean "to teach the people and thus saving the country" (there are probably more examples, i'm just not that good at literature), so is changing the meaning of a single word THAT big a problem? it's a language, it's bound to change, and since, like you said, 9000 people have already accepted it, there's no reason to go against those 9000 and keep to the old meaning, after all, "change is good"
"Gay" (Happy) and "Gay" (Homosexual) are two different words. There meanings haven't changed, they're just 2 different words. I'm not saying that a revolution should be started, just that a lot of people are being misinformed due to theory11 and Andre.
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