Magicians : The Gathering Forum Is A Joke

Fin · 11-23-2011, 03:11 PM

I've got to know Leroy pretty well over the last few weeks. He is an incredibly kind hearted guy who is passionate about his card magic, and I know for a fact that he has meant no offence whatsoever to you, Mark or Albert. He is very appreciative of your help Mark and he respects you both alot, as do most if not all of us here. I thought his classic pass thread was hitting the nail on the head of WHY I ACTUALLY COME HERE! I mean, not all of us are coming here to discuss ethics and other such stuff; but personally I think it's Mark's forum and he can discuss in it what he likes. I'm quite free to just avoid those threads that don't interest me. I think however that the OP, and Leroy, and maybe others have got a bit frustrated with some of that. To them I just say avoid those threads if they frustrate you. Mark's heart is in the right place; I'd just rather stick to learning sleights for now, so I'll stick to those sorts of threads. It's not the end of the world!

I come here to learn about sleights, technique, finesse, the beautiful details of card magic is what I love exploring more than anything else. I have spent enough time in my life getting involved in debates and dramas that have added nothing positive to my own journey in life, so now I guess I'm being a bit selfish. I respect Mark's desire for a cleaner, more ethical world of magic but for me personally, the time I devote to magic is being purely devoted towards practise, performance and further learning, and it is paying off. I really don't have time to be doing that AND getting involved in the push for better ethics, exposing fraudsters and fakes, etc. But I do appreciate those who make their own efforts in this field.

On Leroy's classic pass thread, it's a great thread to have, and although I'm not practising my classic pass much at all at the moment, I am an avid pass collecter

and its something I'll always be coming back to once in a while, and I look forward to posting back on that thread in the future as I improve, which by Zeus's testicles I will!! I think Leroy was expecting you both to contribute to the classic pass competition and in all honesty I think many including myself are surprised that you didn't enter, and here are my reasons..

Mark has the best classic pass on youtube and a pretty awesome one live (on webcam), and Albert does an extensive tutorial on... The Classic Pass.. But neither will post a quick vid of them doing it several times in a row on a thread in this.. their HOME forum..? That is a little strange, however one looks at it. And remember, the basic point of the whole classic pass thread was "show us your pass, whatever state it's in, then show it to us after you've improved". This is what everyone else did. Some didn't do STRICTLY CLASSIC passes, but they were allowed in, because its all still worth it in the spirit of learning and sharing! Group hug

But, could it be that you guys just aren't doing the "classic" at all any more and so have discarded it altogether, kinda like me?

If not then you must understand why there are sounds of chickens clucking faintly in the background, at least I think that's what I am hearing!

And even if you have not done it for ages, like me, then you gotta just grow Rambo-nuts, like me, and give it a quick practise and film it anyway.. Say it after me... "I'm a tiger! Grrrrr!"

I know you both are very down to earth guys, and are not completely obsessed with self-image (well, maybe a bit), and although you are legendary in some sense, you are very real in others, and certainly not above warming up for ten minutes and just posting a quick vid of your classic pass! It really isn't a big deal

But hey, I still love you both.

11-23-2011, 03:11 PM	#23
Fin Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 530	I've got to know Leroy pretty well over the last few weeks. He is an incredibly kind hearted guy who is passionate about his card magic, and I know for a fact that he has meant no offence whatsoever to you, Mark or Albert. He is very appreciative of your help Mark and he respects you both alot, as do most if not all of us here. I thought his classic pass thread was hitting the nail on the head of WHY I ACTUALLY COME HERE! I mean, not all of us are coming here to discuss ethics and other such stuff; but personally I think it's Mark's forum and he can discuss in it what he likes. I'm quite free to just avoid those threads that don't interest me. I think however that the OP, and Leroy, and maybe others have got a bit frustrated with some of that. To them I just say avoid those threads if they frustrate you. Mark's heart is in the right place; I'd just rather stick to learning sleights for now, so I'll stick to those sorts of threads. It's not the end of the world! I come here to learn about sleights, technique, finesse, the beautiful details of card magic is what I love exploring more than anything else. I have spent enough time in my life getting involved in debates and dramas that have added nothing positive to my own journey in life, so now I guess I'm being a bit selfish. I respect Mark's desire for a cleaner, more ethical world of magic but for me personally, the time I devote to magic is being purely devoted towards practise, performance and further learning, and it is paying off. I really don't have time to be doing that AND getting involved in the push for better ethics, exposing fraudsters and fakes, etc. But I do appreciate those who make their own efforts in this field. On Leroy's classic pass thread, it's a great thread to have, and although I'm not practising my classic pass much at all at the moment, I am an avid pass collecter and its something I'll always be coming back to once in a while, and I look forward to posting back on that thread in the future as I improve, which by Zeus's testicles I will!! I think Leroy was expecting you both to contribute to the classic pass competition and in all honesty I think many including myself are surprised that you didn't enter, and here are my reasons.. Mark has the best classic pass on youtube and a pretty awesome one live (on webcam), and Albert does an extensive tutorial on... The Classic Pass.. But neither will post a quick vid of them doing it several times in a row on a thread in this.. their HOME forum..? That is a little strange, however one looks at it. And remember, the basic point of the whole classic pass thread was "show us your pass, whatever state it's in, then show it to us after you've improved". This is what everyone else did. Some didn't do STRICTLY CLASSIC passes, but they were allowed in, because its all still worth it in the spirit of learning and sharing! Group hug But, could it be that you guys just aren't doing the "classic" at all any more and so have discarded it altogether, kinda like me? If not then you must understand why there are sounds of chickens clucking faintly in the background, at least I think that's what I am hearing! And even if you have not done it for ages, like me, then you gotta just grow Rambo-nuts, like me, and give it a quick practise and film it anyway.. Say it after me... "I'm a tiger! Grrrrr!" I know you both are very down to earth guys, and are not completely obsessed with self-image (well, maybe a bit), and although you are legendary in some sense, you are very real in others, and certainly not above warming up for ten minutes and just posting a quick vid of your classic pass! It really isn't a big deal But hey, I still love you both.