Flatline Magic (flatlinemagic.com) Exposed

Mark · 08-09-2012, 10:42 PM

Dear Adam,

Thanks for signing up and replying. Just saying my information is invalid, does not automatically make it that though. Please tell me what part was invalid?

Also, I didn't exactly steal anything as you made and kept all of it publicly available yourself (or one of your guys at least, in case it wasn't you personally). I was sent the links by others who apparently (and understandably) got them way easily. I have no idea why you have made and kept the folder publicly available (and even publicly writable) though, and I definitely don't see that as my responsibility either.

Also, freedom of speech gives me all the rights to post any review on your (fairly stupid) actions. Nothing against any of you personally, not at all, but obviously it all coming together did fail quite miserably.

I probably won't be at the launch due to timezone differences. Waking up at 5:00 a.m. for something that I believe should not exist (not just because of the huge amount and low demand of overly commercial magic companies but mainly because of the way it's put all-together) is quite a task.

Best of luck though. Hope you are somewhat thankful that I made you realize something important.

-Mark

Flatlinemagic · 08-10-2012, 12:17 AM

Mark,
What you did was hack onto our site. Our files are not public in anyway. So yes, hacking into a copyrighted business and stealing their property is illegal. It was not open for public use than and isn't now either. We have put years into this company and into these effects. I personally perform for REAL people 5 days a week. I perform every single one of these effects and for REAL people Mark and not just for a camera on youtube. They all get great reactions and are fantastic effects. Many people have put a lot of money,time,and effort into this site. For you to sit there on your computer and steal from us and than call us "poorly put together... and shouldn't to have ever existed" is as offensive as it is immoral. We are all magicians here. We should be supporting one another for creating effects that in the real world of performing WORK and get great reactions when performed correctly.

Mark, I and many others have worked hard on this. So please if you wanna give your respectful opinion of our effects after you have purchased them and actually performed them for people than fine. But, until than I appreciate you not stealing or saying just plain out mean things about people who have worked tirelessly for a long time to make this what it is, while you sit at home on your computer.

You are more than invited to attend and I hope to see you there. We as brothers in the art of magic should support one another and our art form. I wish you the very best Mark and best of luck in life. Hope you are somewhat thankful that I made you realize something important.

Flatlinemagic.com
Adam Rose

08-09-2012, 10:42 PM	#1
Mark Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 935	Dear Adam, Thanks for signing up and replying. Just saying my information is invalid, does not automatically make it that though. Please tell me what part was invalid? Also, I didn't exactly steal anything as you made and kept all of it publicly available yourself (or one of your guys at least, in case it wasn't you personally). I was sent the links by others who apparently (and understandably) got them way easily. I have no idea why you have made and kept the folder publicly available (and even publicly writable) though, and I definitely don't see that as my responsibility either. Also, freedom of speech gives me all the rights to post any review on your (fairly stupid) actions. Nothing against any of you personally, not at all, but obviously it all coming together did fail quite miserably. I probably won't be at the launch due to timezone differences. Waking up at 5:00 a.m. for something that I believe should not exist (not just because of the huge amount and low demand of overly commercial magic companies but mainly because of the way it's put all-together) is quite a task. Best of luck though. Hope you are somewhat thankful that I made you realize something important. -Mark

08-10-2012, 12:17 AM	#2
Flatlinemagic Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 5	Mark, What you did was hack onto our site. Our files are not public in anyway. So yes, hacking into a copyrighted business and stealing their property is illegal. It was not open for public use than and isn't now either. We have put years into this company and into these effects. I personally perform for REAL people 5 days a week. I perform every single one of these effects and for REAL people Mark and not just for a camera on youtube. They all get great reactions and are fantastic effects. Many people have put a lot of money,time,and effort into this site. For you to sit there on your computer and steal from us and than call us "poorly put together... and shouldn't to have ever existed" is as offensive as it is immoral. We are all magicians here. We should be supporting one another for creating effects that in the real world of performing WORK and get great reactions when performed correctly. Mark, I and many others have worked hard on this. So please if you wanna give your respectful opinion of our effects after you have purchased them and actually performed them for people than fine. But, until than I appreciate you not stealing or saying just plain out mean things about people who have worked tirelessly for a long time to make this what it is, while you sit at home on your computer. You are more than invited to attend and I hope to see you there. We as brothers in the art of magic should support one another and our art form. I wish you the very best Mark and best of luck in life. Hope you are somewhat thankful that I made you realize something important. Flatlinemagic.com Adam Rose