FCSTT control

Fin · 01-01-2012, 09:47 AM

The FCSTT control. I could tell you what it stands for, but I can't remember, and I'd have to kill you if I could

But I think the F stands for "Findini"

"For magicians who like to end on top" (sponsored by Gillette aftershave)

[edit] I made this video private.. My improved performance is below (scroll down) [edit]

It's still in the early stages of development and practise, so I hope to smooth it out alot over time. It's strongly inspired by moves from Olmac and Roy Babbel. Thanks also for the helpful advice from Mark Hilkemeijer and Tony Chang.

TommySteal · 01-01-2012, 11:08 AM

I'd say it's pretty smooth already. You probably think otherwise because at the moment you're analyzing the move as a single entity. Once incorporated into a routine or sequence, you may find "The Move" begin to appear undetectable.

Changing the subject ...
I had a dream last night I was back at school. I dreamed I rode my bike to school only when I came to the shed to lock it up, I'd forgotten my chain and padlock. I had to take it into the class room with me and everything.

Travmang · 01-01-2012, 12:37 PM

I'm going to reveal the control name for those wondering.

FCSTT

Fin's Cactus Still Tickles Travis

Dude, this is awesome, I don't even know how its done, because its pretty much invisible. I must know the secrets of this move considering it is partially named after me!

Fin · 01-01-2012, 10:32 PM

Trav, honey, you had me at "dude".
(But how did you know I was using my cactus gimmick? Did I flash?)

Tommy, sort yer' dreams out! That's soo messed up

la0o9 · 01-02-2012, 12:21 AM

oh, so you used a cactus gimmick, i see. very clever idea Fin, i couldn't even see the cactus in action ;D

P.S: i really couldn't, but i get the gist of it.

Leroy · 01-02-2012, 04:01 AM

the beauty of this move is incredible. I just love the way it flows, and its a great move to look up to when making your own. Thanks Fin for the inspiration.

Fin · 01-02-2012, 07:52 PM

Thanks for the positive words Leroy. It looks great, but it's only really good from the direct front, going around to the far right. Anything to your left and you've got trouble. So, like many moves its definitely best performed for just a few people. It can also be used for other things, such as to go straight into a shapeshifter change, with no double lift!

I think it's main strength is that when done smoothly (and I'm still working hard on that) it looks like no "move" could have been done yet, since all you have done is apparently turn over and replace the top card.

Mark · 01-02-2012, 09:17 PM

The only suggestion I could give to this is to keep the speed consistent. If you do everything very slow and then suddenly speed up (in this case when turning over the card), it looks much more tenseful for no reason. Since the rest looks very relaxed, any speeding up would make it very suspicious.

Other than that, good job.

Also, isn't this the 'FCSTL'? The 'FCSTT' was using the other sleight.

Fin · 01-02-2012, 09:24 PM

Thanks for the input Mark, great advice as always. That's what I'm working on now; the smoothing of the movements and consistency of speed. I think I've got the mechanics down and I know my angles, so the more subtle aspects are now easier to concentrate on. Thanks again

ps. the FCSTL was basically the same thing.. The FCSTT was a more streamlined approach to the use of the english language in an attempt to use less letters. It didn't work.

Leroy · 01-03-2012, 07:36 AM

Yes yes, the angles are moody. I look up to the way its built into doing something natural.
P.s. When I grow up I want to be like you fin!!

KGaborMagic · 01-03-2012, 03:14 PM

Fin... this is awesome...

Fin · 04-05-2012, 07:30 AM

So here we are, a few months down the road. I've worked on the move and smoothed it out further. Still room for improvement, but I'm getting there.. Here's the basic top control, aka "The F Move - Variation 1".

Thanks for all the feedback so far; it has really helped

la0o9 · 04-05-2012, 01:53 PM

... and then he was the best... awesome move man, my eyes can see better so it looked more obvious to me, but it totally fooled me twice( shame on me)

TommySteal · 04-05-2012, 02:01 PM

If this is done the way I think, I take my hat off to you young Fin - very smooth indeed. If not, can you tell me where I can get hold of the cactus gimmick?

Fin · 04-05-2012, 04:32 PM

Get on skype some time Tommy so I can show you the cactus gimmick. It's even more exciting than Trav suggests

Travmang · 04-06-2012, 05:14 PM

The core of it's excitement derives from it's high level of prickly awesomeness as I'm sure your eyes will behold soon.

Fin · 05-01-2012, 01:29 AM

I've been street-testing this recently, (now that I'm happy with the handling) and I haven't been caught ONCE! I feel so naughty

Travmang · 05-01-2012, 03:27 AM

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Awesome! Finny I must send you a pm in a minute I must ask you something!

01-01-2012, 09:47 AM	#1
Fin Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 530	FCSTT control The FCSTT control. I could tell you what it stands for, but I can't remember, and I'd have to kill you if I could But I think the F stands for "Findini" "For magicians who like to end on top" (sponsored by Gillette aftershave) [edit] I made this video private.. My improved performance is below (scroll down) [edit] It's still in the early stages of development and practise, so I hope to smooth it out alot over time. It's strongly inspired by moves from Olmac and Roy Babbel. Thanks also for the helpful advice from Mark Hilkemeijer and Tony Chang.

01-01-2012, 11:08 AM	#2
TommySteal Tom Join Date: May 2011 Location: Italy Posts: 274	I'd say it's pretty smooth already. You probably think otherwise because at the moment you're analyzing the move as a single entity. Once incorporated into a routine or sequence, you may find "The Move" begin to appear undetectable. Changing the subject ... I had a dream last night I was back at school. I dreamed I rode my bike to school only when I came to the shed to lock it up, I'd forgotten my chain and padlock. I had to take it into the class room with me and everything. __________________ My cigar is not a symbol. It's only a cigar. - Sigmund Freud

01-02-2012, 12:21 AM	#5
la0o9 Move monkey atm Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Not where you'd want to go :P Posts: 747	oh, so you used a cactus gimmick, i see. very clever idea Fin, i couldn't even see the cactus in action ;D P.S: i really couldn't, but i get the gist of it. __________________ "Doubt isn't the same as saying people are bad, it simply means you actually care, 100% trust is nothing more than ignorance"~ Akiyama Shinichi- Liar Game "It's not the destination but the road to it that is worth the trip" "Be careful what you wish for... it might just come true"~ old saying "It's a small world, but only relatively" "Reality is not the world, it is the way humankind depicts the world, thus when you alter a person's way of seeing the world, you alter reality itself"

04-05-2012, 01:53 PM	#13
la0o9 Move monkey atm Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Not where you'd want to go :P Posts: 747	... and then he was the best... awesome move man, my eyes can see better so it looked more obvious to me, but it totally fooled me twice( shame on me) __________________ "Doubt isn't the same as saying people are bad, it simply means you actually care, 100% trust is nothing more than ignorance"~ Akiyama Shinichi- Liar Game "It's not the destination but the road to it that is worth the trip" "Be careful what you wish for... it might just come true"~ old saying "It's a small world, but only relatively" "Reality is not the world, it is the way humankind depicts the world, thus when you alter a person's way of seeing the world, you alter reality itself"

04-05-2012, 02:01 PM	#14
TommySteal Tom Join Date: May 2011 Location: Italy Posts: 274	If this is done the way I think, I take my hat off to you young Fin - very smooth indeed. If not, can you tell me where I can get hold of the cactus gimmick? __________________ My cigar is not a symbol. It's only a cigar. - Sigmund Freud

01-01-2012, 12:37 PM	#3
Travmang Pharaoh of Magicianry Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Seattle, Washington Posts: 249 Donor Score: 50	I'm going to reveal the control name for those wondering. FCSTT Fin's Cactus Still Tickles Travis Dude, this is awesome, I don't even know how its done, because its pretty much invisible. I must know the secrets of this move considering it is partially named after me!

01-01-2012, 10:32 PM	#4
Fin Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 530	Trav, honey, you had me at "dude". (But how did you know I was using my cactus gimmick? Did I flash?) Tommy, sort yer' dreams out! That's soo messed up

01-02-2012, 04:01 AM	#6
Leroy Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Manti, Utah Posts: 91	the beauty of this move is incredible. I just love the way it flows, and its a great move to look up to when making your own. Thanks Fin for the inspiration.

01-02-2012, 07:52 PM	#7
Fin Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 530	Thanks for the positive words Leroy. It looks great, but it's only really good from the direct front, going around to the far right. Anything to your left and you've got trouble. So, like many moves its definitely best performed for just a few people. It can also be used for other things, such as to go straight into a shapeshifter change, with no double lift! I think it's main strength is that when done smoothly (and I'm still working hard on that) it looks like no "move" could have been done yet, since all you have done is apparently turn over and replace the top card.

01-02-2012, 09:17 PM	#8
Mark Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 935	The only suggestion I could give to this is to keep the speed consistent. If you do everything very slow and then suddenly speed up (in this case when turning over the card), it looks much more tenseful for no reason. Since the rest looks very relaxed, any speeding up would make it very suspicious. Other than that, good job. Also, isn't this the 'FCSTL'? The 'FCSTT' was using the other sleight.

01-02-2012, 09:24 PM	#9
Fin Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 530	Thanks for the input Mark, great advice as always. That's what I'm working on now; the smoothing of the movements and consistency of speed. I think I've got the mechanics down and I know my angles, so the more subtle aspects are now easier to concentrate on. Thanks again ps. the FCSTL was basically the same thing.. The FCSTT was a more streamlined approach to the use of the english language in an attempt to use less letters. It didn't work.

01-03-2012, 07:36 AM	#10
Leroy Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Manti, Utah Posts: 91	Yes yes, the angles are moody. I look up to the way its built into doing something natural. P.s. When I grow up I want to be like you fin!!

01-03-2012, 03:14 PM	#11
KGaborMagic K. Gábor Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 229 Donor Score: 110	Fin... this is awesome...

04-05-2012, 07:30 AM	#12
Fin Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 530	So here we are, a few months down the road. I've worked on the move and smoothed it out further. Still room for improvement, but I'm getting there.. Here's the basic top control, aka "The F Move - Variation 1". Thanks for all the feedback so far; it has really helped

04-05-2012, 04:32 PM	#15
Fin Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 530	Get on skype some time Tommy so I can show you the cactus gimmick. It's even more exciting than Trav suggests

04-06-2012, 05:14 PM	#16
Travmang Pharaoh of Magicianry Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Seattle, Washington Posts: 249 Donor Score: 50	The core of it's excitement derives from it's high level of prickly awesomeness as I'm sure your eyes will behold soon.

05-01-2012, 01:29 AM	#17
Fin Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 530	I've been street-testing this recently, (now that I'm happy with the handling) and I haven't been caught ONCE! I feel so naughty

05-01-2012, 03:27 AM	#18
Travmang Pharaoh of Magicianry Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Seattle, Washington Posts: 249 Donor Score: 50	> Awesome! Finny I must send you a pm in a minute I must ask you something!