Jonathan Kamm (kammagic) Exposed

[MeandmagiC]

I know you replied on Marks post, but, still, I want to reply to you here.
You do not critize the critics in a very kindful way.
You refute what they said and doesnt even take it in consideration...(al least, so does it look to me)
Think about that

[kammagic]

Originally Posted by MeandmagiC

I know you replied on Marks post, but, still, I want to reply to you here.
You do not critize the critics in a very kindful way.
You refute what they said and doesnt even take it in consideration...(al least, so does it look to me)
Think about that

Critics are not kind to people. Why should people be kind to them? If you are going to choose to criticize you have to be up for it in return.

As I have already stated I listen to what everyone has to say. It just turns out that according to my educated opinion the majority of them are wrong and they have trouble dealing with that. They love telling people what to do and when people don't listen to them they throw a fit. The people who criticize others would be better off putting that energy into bettering themselves.

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Originally Posted by Richard

The poster is about you, yet the statistics are about your video. As long as you do not put the video name with the statistics it is a lie because it reflects to something completely different. According to you, anyone who has a YouTube hit on a well known trick, or who comes up with an original trick and films it could call themselves "Most Viewed". Of course, only one person is actually the most viewed, or perhaps the most viewed magician as that is the displayed profession.

Also, the average video ratings are lower than for instance the ones of Tommy Wonder his video so even for a video of that routine it is not the "Highest Rated". It does have the most ratings though.

It would help to know if you could actually tell us if you realize what we are coming from, or whether you honestly think that we are crazy people with no common sense, talking bad about you for absolutely no proper reason. I would love to believe you are actually a great and very positive guy in real life, but it does not show on the internet. Almost two hands full of people contacted us about you, and obviously not everybody who thinks that about you does actually contact us.



I do not see any reason for this because we are not discussing any magic in here. I do have a Master's Degree in Communication Sciences though, which seems to be a lot more relevant in this case.

My magic carreer started in 1999. I have been doing street magic for a little while, and I actually performed quite some years at private gigs but I never took it to a professional level. I do not do all that much with it anymore apart from being product manager at DarkSleightZ and doing research.

Richard thanks for the small bio that helps.

As far as the YouTube comment stands. I just checked and my video has 136,799 views and 842 positive ratings. Tommy Wonders has 97,145 views and only 408 positive ratings. My video clearly has more views and is higher rated. These are the facts. The statement is not a lie.

A poster highlights my accomplishments there is no need for it to include statistics and details. But if checked my claims are legit. Posters and ads make those claims all the time. "Chicago's favorite Band!" "New Improved soap!"
If my work didn't reflect these claims then you would have an argument. If my skills were subpar or my performances unprofessional you could say I was misleading people. But my performances are of the caliber of someone who can make those claims. Plus if looked into Yes I can back it up with impressive statistics.

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Well it's Friday night I have to get ready for work. 7 hours of magic. Private show then the restaurant. I will check in later.

[Richard]

Richard thanks for the small bio that helps.

As far as the YouTube comment stands. I just checked and my video has 136,799 views and 842 positive ratings. Tommy Wonders has 97,145 views and only 408 positive ratings. My video clearly has more views and is higher rated. These are the facts. The statement is not a lie.

A poster highlights my accomplishments there is no need for it to include statistics and details. But if checked my claims are legit. Posters and ads make those claims all the time. "Chicago's favorite Band!" "New Improved soap!"
If my work didn't reflect these claims then you would have an argument. If my skills were subpar or my performances unprofessional you could say I was misleading people. But my performances are of the caliber of someone who can make those claims. Plus if looked into Yes I can back it up with impressive statistics

Okay, I know that your math skills are not that good because I read that in the 10 Questions For A Magician interview you did. So let me try to explain it so that you can understand it.

If a movie has eight 5-star ratings and two 4-star ratings, it is rated 4.8 stars. A movie with just seven 5-star ratings, is rated 5.0 stars and thus is rated higher. The only thing is that because the one with 4.8 has more ratings, its rating is more trustful, but it definitely is not the highest rated. When something on the internet has over 250 ratings, you can say that it is trustful anyways. I hope this clears it up.

A better example might be that a video with 2000 ratings of which 1000 are positive and 1000 are negative, is obviously not higher rated than if it are just 999 ratings, all 999 being positive ones. On the old YouTube it would be the difference between 2.5 stars and 5 stars.

Back to your video. It has 843 positive ratings and 32 negative ratings as for now. That is 875 ratings in total which is definitely more than any video of that routine. Now, please keep in mind that it has 32 negative ratings.

Up to Tommy Wonder his video. That one has 409 positive ratings and just 5 negative ones, which makes 414 in total. Now, if you take those 5 negative ones and equal it with the amount of ratings your video has by deviding it with its total of 414 and then multiplying it with your total of 875, you will see that only 8 or 9 of those ratings would have been negative if Tommy his video would have had as many ratings as yours. Since 8 or 9 is obviously less negative than 32, I hope you understand it now. It means that Tommy his video is rated 4.94 out of 5 and yours is rated 4.82 out of 5. Also, I am sure that there are people with videos of the routine which have absolutely no negative ratings and so those are actually rated the highest.

"Chicago's favorite Band!" and "New Improved soap!" are either people their opinions or it are facts. If the band in question won a competition and earned that title they could put that on their poster as a fact. If anyone just said it, the band can put it on their poster or anywhere else as an opinion as long as it is in quotation marks. If the soap really improved or if anyone said so, it is either a fact or an opinion as well. If it is about TV series, it will always be opinions, if it is about hand soap it can be a fact too. Actual statistics are not to mess with. In many countries that is even against the law.

Hope you had a good night.

[kammagic]

Originally Posted by Richard

Okay, I know that your math skills are not that good because I read that in the 10 Questions For A Magician interview you did. So let me try to explain it so that you can understand it.

If a movie has eight 5-star ratings and two 4-star ratings, it is rated 4.8 stars. A movie with just seven 5-star ratings, is rated 5.0 stars and thus is higher rated. The only thing is that because the one with 4.8 has more ratings, its rating is more trustful, but it definitely is not the highest rated. When something on the internet has over 250 ratings, you can say that it is trustful anyways. I hope this clears it up.

A better example might be that a video with 2000 ratings of which 1000 are positive and 1000 are negative, is obviously not higher rated than if it are just 999 ratings, all 999 being positive ones. On the old YouTube it would be the difference between 2.5 stars and 5 stars.

Back to your video. It has 843 positive ratings and 32 negative ratings as for now. That is 875 ratings in total which is definitely more than any video of that routine. Now, please keep in mind that it has 32 negative ratings.

Up to Tommy Wonder his video. That one has 409 positive ratings and just 5 negative ones, which makes 414 in total. Now, if you take those 5 negative ones and equal it with the amount of ratings your video has by deviding it with its total of 414 and then multiplying it with your total of 875, you will see that only 8 or 9 of those ratings would have been negative if Tommy his video would have had as many ratings as yours. Since 8 or 9 is obviously less negative than 32, I hope you understand it now. It means that Tommy his video is rated 4.94 out of 5 and yours is rated 4.82 out of 5. Also, I am sure that there are people with videos of the routine which have absolutely no negative ratings and so those are actually rated the highest.

"Chicago's favorite Band!" and "New Improved soap!" are either people their opinions or it are facts. If the band in question won a competition and earned that title they could put that on their poster as a fact. If anyone just said it, the band can put it on their poster or anywhere else as an opinion as long as it is in quotation marks. If the soap really improved or if anyone said so, it is either a fact or an opinion as well. If it is about TV series, it will always be opinions, if it is about hand soap it can be a fact too. Actual statistics are not to mess with. In many countries that is even against the law.

Hope you had a good night.

I asked the brewmaster at work who is a brilliant mathematician.

It depends on how you look at it.
For the people that have watched and voted, I have 842 positive which means .615% of the viewers liked my video.
Tommy has 408 positives which comes out to .419% of the viewers that voted, liked it.

Now, out of all the people that voted for me, 874. 96% liked it.
Tommy comes out to 98.5% of all votes liked his.

Another way to look at it is:
The negative ratings cancel out the positive ones.
MY VIDEO
842 Positive
-32 negative
810 total positive ratings

TOMMY"S VIDEO
408 Positive
- 6 negative
402 total positive ratings

I have approx. twice as many positives as Tommy But I have 29% more views so if you take 29% of my positives away it gives me approx. 597 positives to Tommy's 408.
My video is still higher rated.

So will I change my poster? No.. But Tommy is getting close.

[Richard]

I asked the brewmaster at work who is a brilliant mathematician.

It depends on how you look at it.
For the people that have watched and voted, I have 842 positive which means .615% of the viewers liked my video.
Tommy has 408 positives which comes out to .419% of the viewers that voted, liked it.

Now, out of all the people that voted for me, 874. 96% liked it.
Tommy comes out to 98.5% of all votes liked his.

Another way to look at it is:
The negative ratings cancel out the positive ones.
MY VIDEO
842 Positive
-32 negative
810 total positive ratings

TOMMY"S VIDEO
408 Positive
- 6 negative
402 total positive ratings

I have approx. twice as many positives as Tommy But I have 29% more views so if you take 29% of my positives away it gives me approx. 597 positives to Tommy's 408.
My video is still higher rated.

So will I change my poster? No.. But Tommy is getting close.

I hope you came up with that latter way of looking at it by yourself. What if there would be a video of the routine with as many views as yours but with 2700 ratings instead, 900 being negative? Indeed, only two-third of the voters liked it and it is rated 3.3 out of 5 stars, yet according to you it would be the highest rated because 1800 positive ones minus 900 negative ones equals 900 and that is still more positive ones than you have.

And unlike the others, you make a lot of profit out of barely and non-related video tags, including but not limited to "Tutorial explained sleight of hand cheat expose tutorial teach learn how-to instruction card trick world record best".

I really hope that this does not explain why you earlier posted about not minding free magic tutorials, because apparently those bring you a lot of views. As far as YouTube Insight tells, you received thousands of viewers from people looking for tutorial-related tags only.

I am sorry but everything that was said in my main post stays valid and has now been validated.

[kammagic]

Originally Posted by Richard

I hope you came up with that latter way of looking at it by yourself. What if there would be a video of the routine with as many views as yours but with 2700 ratings instead, 900 being negative? Indeed, only two-third of the voters liked it and it is rated 3.3 out of 5 stars, yet according to you it would be the highest rated because 1800 positive ones minus 900 negative ones equals 900 and that is still more positive ones than you have.

And unlike the others, you make a lot of profit out of barely and non-related video tags, including but not limited to "Tutorial explained sleight of hand cheat expose tutorial teach learn how-to instruction card trick world record best".

I really hope that this does not explain why you earlier posted about not minding free magic tutorials, because apparently those bring you a lot of views. As far as YouTube Insight tells, you received thousands of viewers from people looking for tutorial-related tags only.

I am sorry but everything that was said in my main post stays valid and has now been validated.

You can come up with all the hypothetical situations you want and your original post was the most confusing thing I have ever read. I trust my friend of 20 years and I know he knows what he is talking about. You are merely a stranger who has done nothing but say negative things about me and thinks I am ruining the art of magic. So tell me again why I should listen to you?

As far as tags go you are supposed to put as many things in there as possible thats why they are there. Marketing 101. Draw the customer to your product.
Its not like I don't deliver the goods. Im quite proud of the videos I put out. I think they are some of the best magic videos on YouTube.

Tags make your video pop up in the side bar. People still choose to watch the video. They are not forced to. They also choose to vote.

How old are you Rich? What do you do for a living. I won't use this against you. It's just that you are a stranger and if I knew you better I might be more inclined to take what you say seriously. How did you meet Mark. What is a product manager. Why does an amateur magician need one? You seem young I'm gonna guess under 25.

[Richard]

You can come up with all the hypothetical situations you want and your original post was the most confusing thing I have ever read. I trust my friend of 20 years and I know he knows what he is talking about. You are merely a stranger who has done nothing but say negative things about me and thinks I am ruining the art of magic. So tell me again why I should listen to you?

As far as tags go you are supposed to put as many things in there as possible thats why they are there. Marketing 101. Draw the customer to your product.
Its not like I don't deliver the goods. Im quite proud of the videos I put out. I think they are some of the best magic videos on YouTube.

Tags make your video pop up in the side bar. People still choose to watch the video. They are not forced to. They also choose to vote.

How old are you Rich? What do you do for a living. I won't use this against you. It's just that you are a stranger and if I knew you better I might be more inclined to take what you say seriously. How did you meet Mark. What is a product manager. Why does an amateur magician need one? You seem young I'm gonna guess under 25.

I am pretty sure that I started this thread by complimenting you for your magic. You are definitely a very talented magician. Unfortunately, every single bad thing I found out about you and put in the main post to warn others, has been verified by you, yourself, and no one else, right here in this thread.

For instance, it is obvious that you want to have the last words in this discussion, but instead, you keep making yourself look worse and give us more reasons to reply and clean up the mess. A good false assumption is that you guessed that I am under 25 while on my profile it clearly says that I was born in 1979. I know that I may be a gifted researcher, but I think that anyone could have easily figured that out. I guess you said enough about the criticism, quoting statistics and the marketing for everyone to make up their mind about it, but it is not that that does you any good.

Then there is the fact that you keep saying that you think you are one of the best magicians and persons, making some of the best videos. There was absolutely no reason to say that, yet you did and thereby you showed that the conclusion is nothing but the truth. Everyone can tell that I was correct, which gives me quite some satisfaction as it shows that I did a good job on the research. And according to your posts, I am actually an authority to you in this situation being a communication expert, which should be enough reason to listen to me.

Tags are part of Search Engine Optimization. You are meant to put words that have something to do with the related article, video, image, web page, etcetera, and not words that have nothing to do with it or are barely related to it. But yes, you have been proven to make false assumptions and this is a great way to share that with the rest of the world.

Currently, I am hired by a Dutch electronics multinational to set up a project regarding online communication strategies, which I will not be managing myself though. The rest of the time I work at DarkSleightZ being a product manager which is someone who, indeed, manages the products. I keep an eye on them, make up prices and strategies for future releases, look for business partners, and decide what is best. As you already know, I also do about half of the online communication like on YouTube.

I originally met Mark years ago when he was doing street magic in Rotterdam, later figuring out a good friend of mine was also a good friend of his and that is how I got in contact with him. That you call him an amateur magician only says something about you, like everything else you have said in here. I will let Mark and others decide what to do with that. Perhaps it is just too immature to give any attention.