Opinions on lying in a youtube video

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Originally Posted by la0o9

i am on robandbob's side, i think that magicians lie every single day at every single performance, manipulate is a word you only use when you're affecting some THING, when you say something to a human to mess with a person's reality, that's lying

I have never heard that definition before. I'm pretty sure one can manipulate thoughts rather than just things.