Complaints about Andrei Jikh and Theory11

la0o9 · 08-19-2011, 11:55 PM

well, i kinda hate much of T11's products so there's no reason to drag on that( tho i did find the ones done by Jason England very helpful and i loved Andrei's 2 flourish DVDs- personally, i don't care where something originated unless i have to credit them, so as long as i still have good flourishes to learn, i'm good). But the "cardistry" stuff, i use it like i hear it: 2-handed non-magical manipulation of a deck of cards, whatever it was in the past, it doesn't matter now that it's in the present, since things change according to how people use it, and there's no reason to fret over a change.

Fin · 08-20-2011, 02:26 AM

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Originally Posted by la0o9

and there's no reason to fret over a change.

But what about smooth360? Fret city! Keeps me awake many a night

Kelan · 08-20-2011, 03:09 AM

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Originally Posted by la0o9

there's no reason to fret over a change.

I disagree with that. Lets use the Elmsley count. Alex Elmsley created it back in the 1900's. What If I were to change it to the Kelan count? (My first name) The creator (Alex Elmsley) would be extremely annoyed (De'vo is) and it is just unethical. Not only that, now OVER 9000!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! people refer to it as cardistry, not flourishing/XCM. Put your self in De'vo's shoes and you would be extremely annoyed..

08-19-2011, 11:55 PM	#1
la0o9 Move monkey atm Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Not where you'd want to go :P Posts: 747	well, i kinda hate much of T11's products so there's no reason to drag on that( tho i did find the ones done by Jason England very helpful and i loved Andrei's 2 flourish DVDs- personally, i don't care where something originated unless i have to credit them, so as long as i still have good flourishes to learn, i'm good). But the "cardistry" stuff, i use it like i hear it: 2-handed non-magical manipulation of a deck of cards, whatever it was in the past, it doesn't matter now that it's in the present, since things change according to how people use it, and there's no reason to fret over a change. __________________ "Doubt isn't the same as saying people are bad, it simply means you actually care, 100% trust is nothing more than ignorance"~ Akiyama Shinichi- Liar Game "It's not the destination but the road to it that is worth the trip" "Be careful what you wish for... it might just come true"~ old saying "It's a small world, but only relatively" "Reality is not the world, it is the way humankind depicts the world, thus when you alter a person's way of seeing the world, you alter reality itself"