Alex Pandrea’s Brick Pass download (The Blue Crown)

s13zeTheDay · 04-26-2011, 01:00 AM

I have to say, i bought this download (which happens to have a money back guarantee) pretty skeptical, but it did improve my pass and is very thorough. It never claims to be an original move, and for what it is, an in depth look at the jiggle pass, it does its job well.

As for the issue of giving away secrets, in my opinion this trailer doesn't. The pass in general is one of the oldest moves in card magic and is used by almost every magician out there- I doubt anyone with no knowledge of how to do the pass will see the trailer and either figure it out or even be able to tell when a good magician does it.

@la0o9- though you can achieve a fast/burnable pass with practice, it really helps to have the fundamentals down solidly. Even if it isn't this video, you should have a good instructional resource if you want to learn the pass

Finally, @Mark- What qualifies as over-commercial for you? you seem to have listed most of the magic sellers out there. I understand many are out there not just to produce good magic and to overhype/market effects you'll never use, however most of the ones you listed are also great resources for genuinely good magic (if you sift through the bad stuff)

Albert · 04-26-2011, 04:38 AM

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Originally Posted by s13zeTheDay

Finally, @Mark- What qualifies as over-commercial for you? you seem to have listed most of the magic sellers out there. I understand many are out there not just to produce good magic and to overhype/market effects you'll never use, however most of the ones you listed are also great resources for genuinely good magic (if you sift through the bad stuff)

Although you aren't talking to me, let me have a go at it at explaining what I think Mark wanted to say.

When I think of overly-commercial, I think of these magic sellers due to two reasons:
1) Taking an old existing move and renaming the move. That's just completely ridiculous. Although they do not say it's a new move, to the beginners out there who are not yet knowledgeable enough, it implies a completely different move from the jiggle pass. You must take a another approach at looking at this. Imagine a guy who learned the pass from Jason England, only to have downloaded this to find out it was the exact same thing Jason taught in his pass tutorial. It would have been a waste of money. Videos that build foundations are completely fine; it's just those videos that claim to be "new". To us magicians, it's like lying.
2) They sell moves that may just not be practical at all in real life. I personally believe that techniques or tricks that have no live practicality are not very good investments. Maybe an example of that is the VCR change. There's nothing wrong with it; I just don't think it's completely the best approach to get magic known out there. Personally, those camera-only effects kind of kill the "child's fantasies" of magic being real when they realize it can't be done live.

People are trying too hard to just sell something that looks good, but in fact, may not be.

CrazyInMagic · 04-26-2011, 05:58 PM

s13zeTheDay: "It never claims to be an original move, and for what it is, an in depth look at the jiggle pass, it does its job well."

They say “The Brick Pass is Alex Pandrea’s refined interpretation of the classic pass” and not “The Brick Pass is the Jiggle Pass done by Alex Pandrea” so they do claim it's an original interpretation of the Classic Pass instead of saying it's a Jiggle Pass, not?

04-26-2011, 01:00 AM	#1
s13zeTheDay Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 150	I have to say, i bought this download (which happens to have a money back guarantee) pretty skeptical, but it did improve my pass and is very thorough. It never claims to be an original move, and for what it is, an in depth look at the jiggle pass, it does its job well. As for the issue of giving away secrets, in my opinion this trailer doesn't. The pass in general is one of the oldest moves in card magic and is used by almost every magician out there- I doubt anyone with no knowledge of how to do the pass will see the trailer and either figure it out or even be able to tell when a good magician does it. @la0o9- though you can achieve a fast/burnable pass with practice, it really helps to have the fundamentals down solidly. Even if it isn't this video, you should have a good instructional resource if you want to learn the pass Finally, @Mark- What qualifies as over-commercial for you? you seem to have listed most of the magic sellers out there. I understand many are out there not just to produce good magic and to overhype/market effects you'll never use, however most of the ones you listed are also great resources for genuinely good magic (if you sift through the bad stuff) __________________ What you do in this world is a matter of no consequence. The question is, what can you make people believe you have done. --Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, A Study In Scarlet

04-26-2011, 05:58 PM	#3
CrazyInMagic Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 18	s13zeTheDay: "It never claims to be an original move, and for what it is, an in depth look at the jiggle pass, it does its job well." They say “The Brick Pass is Alex Pandrea’s refined interpretation of the classic pass” and not “The Brick Pass is the Jiggle Pass done by Alex Pandrea” so they do claim it's an original interpretation of the Classic Pass instead of saying it's a Jiggle Pass, not?