Opinions on lying in a youtube video

[Mark]

I thought I put a clear area between manipulating and lying, but I don't like the grey area in what you said, Albert.
Would "you can be sure your card is in the middle" be lying or manipulating according to that?

[Albert]

Originally Posted by Mark

I thought I put a clear area between manipulating and lying, but I don't like the grey area in what you said, Albert.
Would "you can be sure your card is in the middle" be lying or manipulating according to that?

According to my example, seeing that the card is on top in reality, that would be lying.

I say manipulating is when you make your spectators believe in something else without you having to directly say it.

But also taking into consideration what Mark had said, there absolutely times when we have to lie, like in an ACR plot, "(Do a DL) your card is on top. If I put your card in the middle (that's a lie since that's another card going into the middle), and I snap, you card comes to the top (another lie, since it was always on the top)"

OMG I'm confused... I don't even know what I'm saying anymore >.<;

But going back to what you said Mark, if you claim yourself a magician (which is okay according to you), why can't one claim to be a psychic if they are good at mind reading?

[Mark]

Originally Posted by Albert

But going back to what you said Mark, if you claim yourself a magician (which is okay according to you), why can't one claim to be a psychic if they are good at mind reading?

I suggest you to look up the definition of the words. In no dictionary, a magician is described only as someone who does actual paranormal stuff. It's said to be someone who performs illusions and sleight of hand as well, which is a much more common usage nowadays. A psychic however, is always someone who performs paranormal activities, unlike a mentalist.

Basically, if you are a magician, you are saying your words and actions during the performances can not be trusted. Would you call a liar a liar when he says he lies?

Another thing is that lying has a negative feeling about it, which is another reason for me calling it manipulating whenever magicians and mentalists do it when performing, similar to mime artists for instance. But basically, if you call it lying you say that everyone who exposes magic for the reason that they think all liars should be exposed, is actually right.