Gambler's cop vs Bottom palm

IdioticGod · 03-05-2012, 08:25 PM

Hey guys, I'm considering putting quite some effort learning a bottom steal properly, and before I do that, I'd like to know which one do you think it's best: a gambler's cop or a bottom palm (say, Erdnase Bottom Palm), and why?
Or, if you have another sugestion, I'm all ears

la0o9 · 03-05-2012, 09:09 PM

i prefer the Gambler's Cop over the bottom palm, since i use the right hand more than the left and nobody really say anything about a stationary left hand.

OliveroG · 03-06-2012, 03:12 AM

Gamblers cop is way more direct, but palming gives you a better cover, if you're going to palm for long time, use the bottom palm, if it won't take that much time, gamblers cop is the best one.

ouncesmusic · 03-07-2012, 12:14 AM

When I first learned of the gambler's cop, I ditched my efforts towards the bottom palm as it was much easier for me. That was quite some time ago, and I've come to be somewhat of a move monkey now so I practice a lot of different things. Overall, I think the gamblers cop is the way to go. Understanding both of them thoroughly will probably help in mastering either one you decide to perfect. With good performance and even the tiniest bit of misdirection, in my opinion, the cop should go undetected.

Fin · 03-08-2012, 01:47 AM

I prefer the gambler's cop, mainly because with the moves I currently know, its more often faster and easier to get into than the palm. That said, I'm sure that practising moves that use both is the way to go, as it gives you more options.

TommySteal · 03-08-2012, 01:55 PM

In the poll I voted for the cop, cause it just comes more natural to me. With that said though, the bottom steal I find great when only a small number of cards are being used, for example in effects like the open travelers or an ace assembly.

TheMisdirectingHand · 03-11-2012, 05:06 PM

I prefer using some weird that I really don't know the name of when stealing the bottom card. All I know is, Mark calls it a Finger Palm.

Mark · 03-11-2012, 09:55 PM

I totally agree with Fin and Tommy.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheMisdirectingHand

I prefer using some weird that I really don't know the name of when stealing the bottom card. All I know is, Mark calls it a Finger Palm.

The only thing is that it is not quite related to either a 'Bottom Palm' or a 'Gambler's Cop' as these are done with the other hand.

Fin · 03-12-2012, 01:23 AM

Anyone ever use the nose palm? I know it's angle sensitive but it's just so much fun to practise!

TheMisdirectingHand · 03-12-2012, 01:30 AM

Well, he didn't specify which hand. All there was to begin with in the poll was, "Gambler's Cop," "Bottom Palm," and "Other." I'd like to believe that my "other" stays relevant.

Mark · 03-12-2012, 02:38 AM

Ah, yeah, okay, true, my bad.

Fin · 03-12-2012, 06:23 PM

lol Awesome! I can't believe Mark was wrong about something

Almost a trick in itself

IdioticGod · 03-21-2012, 07:00 PM

Well, gamblers cop it is. A big personal thanks to everybody for the advice

(Forgive me for not saying all your names, but I'm kinda short on time, so... yeah...

... Thanks again)

View Poll Results: Gamblers cop vs Bottom palm
Gambler's Cop	9	56.25%
Bottom Palm	5	31.25%
Other	2	12.50%
Voters: 16. You may not vote on this poll

03-05-2012, 08:25 PM	#1
IdioticGod Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 6	Gambler's cop vs Bottom palm Hey guys, I'm considering putting quite some effort learning a bottom steal properly, and before I do that, I'd like to know which one do you think it's best: a gambler's cop or a bottom palm (say, Erdnase Bottom Palm), and why? Or, if you have another sugestion, I'm all ears

03-05-2012, 09:09 PM	#2
la0o9 Move monkey atm Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Not where you'd want to go :P Posts: 747	i prefer the Gambler's Cop over the bottom palm, since i use the right hand more than the left and nobody really say anything about a stationary left hand. __________________ "Doubt isn't the same as saying people are bad, it simply means you actually care, 100% trust is nothing more than ignorance"~ Akiyama Shinichi- Liar Game "It's not the destination but the road to it that is worth the trip" "Be careful what you wish for... it might just come true"~ old saying "It's a small world, but only relatively" "Reality is not the world, it is the way humankind depicts the world, thus when you alter a person's way of seeing the world, you alter reality itself"

03-08-2012, 01:55 PM	#6
TommySteal Tom Join Date: May 2011 Location: Italy Posts: 274	In the poll I voted for the cop, cause it just comes more natural to me. With that said though, the bottom steal I find great when only a small number of cards are being used, for example in effects like the open travelers or an ace assembly. __________________ My cigar is not a symbol. It's only a cigar. - Sigmund Freud

03-11-2012, 05:06 PM	#7
TheMisdirectingHand David Nguyen Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Rosemead, California Posts: 406	I prefer using some weird that I really don't know the name of when stealing the bottom card. All I know is, Mark calls it a Finger Palm. __________________ "There are three types of people in this world; •People who talk and never do: The Lower Class •People who talk and do at the same time: The Middle Class •People who do before they ever talk: The Upper Class A real man does not need to talk. We are the upper class." -Joseph Lau

03-06-2012, 03:12 AM	#3
OliveroG Marcos Olivero Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Venezuela Posts: 103	Gamblers cop is way more direct, but palming gives you a better cover, if you're going to palm for long time, use the bottom palm, if it won't take that much time, gamblers cop is the best one.

03-07-2012, 12:14 AM	#4
ouncesmusic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Seattle/WA/USA Posts: 110	When I first learned of the gambler's cop, I ditched my efforts towards the bottom palm as it was much easier for me. That was quite some time ago, and I've come to be somewhat of a move monkey now so I practice a lot of different things. Overall, I think the gamblers cop is the way to go. Understanding both of them thoroughly will probably help in mastering either one you decide to perfect. With good performance and even the tiniest bit of misdirection, in my opinion, the cop should go undetected.

03-08-2012, 01:47 AM	#5
Fin Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 530	I prefer the gambler's cop, mainly because with the moves I currently know, its more often faster and easier to get into than the palm. That said, I'm sure that practising moves that use both is the way to go, as it gives you more options.

03-12-2012, 01:23 AM	#9
Fin Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 530	Anyone ever use the nose palm? I know it's angle sensitive but it's just so much fun to practise!

03-12-2012, 01:30 AM	#10
TheMisdirectingHand David Nguyen Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Rosemead, California Posts: 406	Well, he didn't specify which hand. All there was to begin with in the poll was, "Gambler's Cop," "Bottom Palm," and "Other." I'd like to believe that my "other" stays relevant. __________________ "There are three types of people in this world; •People who talk and never do: The Lower Class •People who talk and do at the same time: The Middle Class •People who do before they ever talk: The Upper Class A real man does not need to talk. We are the upper class." -Joseph Lau

03-12-2012, 02:38 AM	#11
Mark Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 935	Ah, yeah, okay, true, my bad.

03-12-2012, 06:23 PM	#12
Fin Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 530	lol Awesome! I can't believe Mark was wrong about something Almost a trick in itself

03-21-2012, 07:00 PM	#13
IdioticGod Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 6	Well, gamblers cop it is. A big personal thanks to everybody for the advice (Forgive me for not saying all your names, but I'm kinda short on time, so... yeah... ... Thanks again)

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