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Old 05-17-2011, 11:33 PM   #1
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Arrow Brimstone - Custom Card Deck Idea







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What do you guys think? I've been working on this deck off and on for a month now. I am still making slight variations, but it is pretty much finished.
I've been poking around a few other websites trying to get some feedback, so any you have would be awesome!

Would YOU buy a deck if it was for sale?

I have started a kickstarter account to see if there is enough interest to actually make the deck in the coming months.

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Old 05-17-2011, 11:42 PM   #2
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I like the back design and the box
All the cards look very nice for exception of the : KINGS (they are too red) , I haven't seen the other picture cards ( if they are as red as the kings lower the opacity down).
Other then that if you ship this cards to Serbia I would definitely buy them!
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Old 05-17-2011, 11:43 PM   #3
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First off, welcome to our community of awesomeness. Second, I do like the design and the look of the cards, I'd buy them as long as they are reasonably priced.
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Old 05-17-2011, 11:53 PM   #4
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Quick replies!

Thanks! The kings/queens/jacks wont be so vibrant when printed. The red is going to be a bit deeper like the back of the cards. I am still messing with them a bit and toning down the court cards is first on the list.

As for the price, on my kickstarter page you can pre-order them for as low as $5.00... MSRP when they get printed will be $8.99

Again thanks for the kind words,
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Old 05-18-2011, 05:46 AM   #5
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This is a really nice deck! I like the design

One reason I may be hesitant to buy it is due to the black border. Once it wears off and you begin to see the white, that kind of interferes with some DLs and such, especially if the wear and tear becomes really distinct on the edges compared to other cards. Just my personal experience from the black tiger deck. The visible wearing just repels me

But I love the devil-angel idea!
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Old 05-18-2011, 09:13 AM   #6
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They are very good I think. Will you get them printed?
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Old 05-18-2011, 09:17 AM   #7
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Very nice!! Would love to see the jokers too!
And sure, feel free to post a link.

One thing though, what if you pre-order them for as long as $5.00 and in the end they won't get printed because of a lack of interest (which I couldn't imagine, but what if)?
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Old 05-18-2011, 04:44 PM   #8
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http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/...nted-card-deck

The way kickstarter work is: All-or-Nothing funding. $5,000 is enough to make the cards through USPCC/Bicycle. If I don't raise the full amount on kickstarter in the time allotted your credit card does NOT get charged. Anyone who pledged through kickstarter is safe either way. Kickstarter is a legally binding contract for myself. I am already 60% funded in only 9 days! There seems to be a huge demand for them! The day I get full funding is the day I order the decks, I already have been speaking to a sales rep at USPCC.

Back to the fun stuff!

The Jokers:
I'm still working on those, I want something unique and evil! I've been tossing around a few ideas and will have examples to show everyone this weekend I am sure.
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Old 05-18-2011, 05:15 PM   #9
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quick question, how much will you be selling them at? and will you be ordering them from USPCC as a normal t11 deck would be( they always use some sort of reserved card stock or something) or as a normal custom deck would be?

now to talk about the fun stuffs

hmmm, i would originally suggest a simple bone man with devil wingsfor the jokers, but now that i think about it, seems like that is too simple( and over done) for a newly released deck that strive for uniqueness, have you thought about NOT modelling the jokers after humanoid demons( walking on 2 legs, having 2 arms, a head, all attached to a torso in the middle)? i think a fierce looking monster with the reveal card inside it's mouth will be quite original( well, if you're not comparing it the the Anne Stokes or the England Alchemy decks).
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Old 05-18-2011, 08:31 PM   #10
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Here's an idea for the jokers. Maybe using devilish angels as shown on the back design, and put them as a joker?
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Old 05-18-2011, 09:49 PM   #11
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What about actual devils, the master of the devilish angels?
Or a devilish joker holding a bicycle in his hands, which he just ripped into pieces.
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Old 05-18-2011, 11:00 PM   #12
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quick question, how much will you be selling them at? and will you be ordering them from USPCC as a normal t11 deck would be( they always use some sort of reserved card stock or something) or as a normal custom deck would be?
MSRP will be $8.99 USD, but anyone buying in bulk can sell them for whatever they like. My estimates so far have put me at only having 300 decks AFTER I am finished with Kickstarter. They'll be sold in bricks of 25 decks after that at $125 USD. The only way to guarantee a deck or uncut sheet is to pledge to at least $5 to kickstarter.

As for the joker ideas, I've been tossing around a few of those already!

Thanks for the comments and responses everyone.

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Old 05-19-2011, 01:06 AM   #13
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Just joking... but maybe we should paste a picture of Daniel Madison on the Jokers.
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Old 05-19-2011, 03:35 AM   #14
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Just something to consider- though you can make the joker design awesome-looking and you might appreciate it, ultimately laymen are going to have to see and interpret it. I would thus advise a clearer approach, something that when someone sees it they immediately know it's a joker (that doesn't mean you can't be creative, just not too intricate). E.G. My arcane deck, though I like the deck a lot, i've gotten weird looks from spectators when they pick the joker and then i have to either explain it or make them pick another card.

Also the deck in general looks nice
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Old 05-22-2011, 06:09 PM   #15
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Just a quick update to those who are still interested in my little project...

I give you, The King of Diamonds and The Gaffed Joker!




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The second joker is now the same color as the first! It will be holding the back side art card instead.


Thanks for your input everyone!
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Old 05-22-2011, 06:11 PM   #16
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That's ridiculously awesome! I don't know whether I like the second Joker having a reversed color scheme though. It would be cool if you could have the 3 of Clubs appear in the Joker's hand magically and with a reversed color schemed second Joker that wouldn't be possible.
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Old 05-22-2011, 06:15 PM   #17
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Gorgeously looking! I love it! Love the idea of the demonic or the skull on the court cards!
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Old 05-22-2011, 08:02 PM   #18
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Yeah, please don't reverse the colors on the other joker! I beg of you!
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Old 05-22-2011, 09:00 PM   #19
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Hmmm...

I've actually gotten a lot of response about the joker. Just to clarify, the other joker would only switch the red and gold colors, just a palate swap not inverted colors.

I'm still messing around with the details, so you guys might get your wish! I'm getting many emails about this deck and I am weighing all options. Keep the opinions and critiques going!

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Old 05-22-2011, 10:26 PM   #20
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From a magicians point of view, the two jokers need to be identical with the exception of the reveal of course. If you messed with the colur schemes you'd be messing with your sales I think.
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