Theory11 Exposed... Again!

Mark · 11-17-2011, 12:19 PM

I would like to add that Theory11 is definitely hiding the credits. Reviews that include the fact that Ernest Earick has anything to do with 'HighRise', whether it is in an extremely positive context or not, won't be approved or will have that part edited out (which is one of the troubling things of how Theory11 approves those comments and uses them merely as overly positive testimonials). On Facebook such comments have been deleted from their wall too.

A DVD or book isn't all that different. If you promote such with one or two video performances of whatever trick or routine is on or in it, you need to put credits to the video. If you only use snippets from multiple tricks, then no one knows what the effects and routines actually look like and giving credits to the video would not make a lot of sense.

That said, you can actually hide public credits in a proper way (deleting them is a different story though, and that is what T11 has been doing). For instance, I allow anyone to credit the creators to the videos only instead of directly on the product page. In case you sell a book and there are no public performances to be seen, there is no need to credit publicly. But if someone makes a video on one of the things from the book, he still needs to give proper credits as taken from the book, assuming that the book includes proper credits.

But it's why tons of people nowadays think that Wayne Houchin invented the 'Invisible Palm' and why Tabias Pashia's 'P.S Pass' is often called the 'Pullback Pass' while in both cases absolutely nothing was done to the originals. Sure, Houchin gave credits on his release, but the majority of people who watch trailers doesn't purchase the releases and for many of them Wayne is the creator.

As for classics, it's difficult if not impossible to give proper credits, but these basics and their names are (if not should be) well-known. It'd be a whole different story if Jason England would have called his 'Classic Pass' release 'The Super Shift' without saying it's a 'Classic Pass', which is similar to what Laurence Miller has been doing and absolutely no sane person agreed with that.

Also, I guess that you could actually compare it to movies as well. When you make a movie based on a book, a short story, a true story or another movie, whether it is an original film version, your own take on the story or a remake, you will have to credit the original source publicly as well, especially if the title of the movie is different than that of the original source, else it could be seen as credits on its own.

11-17-2011, 12:19 PM	#11
Mark Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 935	I would like to add that Theory11 is definitely hiding the credits. Reviews that include the fact that Ernest Earick has anything to do with 'HighRise', whether it is in an extremely positive context or not, won't be approved or will have that part edited out (which is one of the troubling things of how Theory11 approves those comments and uses them merely as overly positive testimonials). On Facebook such comments have been deleted from their wall too. A DVD or book isn't all that different. If you promote such with one or two video performances of whatever trick or routine is on or in it, you need to put credits to the video. If you only use snippets from multiple tricks, then no one knows what the effects and routines actually look like and giving credits to the video would not make a lot of sense. That said, you can actually hide public credits in a proper way (deleting them is a different story though, and that is what T11 has been doing). For instance, I allow anyone to credit the creators to the videos only instead of directly on the product page. In case you sell a book and there are no public performances to be seen, there is no need to credit publicly. But if someone makes a video on one of the things from the book, he still needs to give proper credits as taken from the book, assuming that the book includes proper credits. But it's why tons of people nowadays think that Wayne Houchin invented the 'Invisible Palm' and why Tabias Pashia's 'P.S Pass' is often called the 'Pullback Pass' while in both cases absolutely nothing was done to the originals. Sure, Houchin gave credits on his release, but the majority of people who watch trailers doesn't purchase the releases and for many of them Wayne is the creator. As for classics, it's difficult if not impossible to give proper credits, but these basics and their names are (if not should be) well-known. It'd be a whole different story if Jason England would have called his 'Classic Pass' release 'The Super Shift' without saying it's a 'Classic Pass', which is similar to what Laurence Miller has been doing and absolutely no sane person agreed with that. Also, I guess that you could actually compare it to movies as well. When you make a movie based on a book, a short story, a true story or another movie, whether it is an original film version, your own take on the story or a remake, you will have to credit the original source publicly as well, especially if the title of the movie is different than that of the original source, else it could be seen as credits on its own.