What effects will be released in the store?

Kieran Oloughlin · 02-21-2011, 07:01 AM

On the darksleightz website I it showed the downloads that will be avalible. WHat do these downloads have in them and when will they be relesed? Aswell as that will there be effects that will be relesed? I would like to see coinage, on top of the world, and the city or paris relased.

VetoHero · 02-21-2011, 07:09 AM

I have spoke to Mark and he said they should be out soon. So just wait and be patient and yes I would like to see those illusions as well when available for purchase.

la0o9 · 02-21-2011, 11:26 AM

i don't think Mark will be selling individual effects, more like basic and advanced techniques to accomplish some of his effects( or simply to accomplish classic plots with less flash), tho i wouldn't mind Mark selling those effects, i still don't know how he did "coinage", but i got a vague idea on " on top of the world" and i know exactly how he did "the city of Paris".

in any case, the upcoming releases aren't going to involve those tricks... his website says so, but let's pray he will release "coinage"

Admin · 02-22-2011, 08:38 AM

At http://darksleightz.itsesproductions.com/ you will find the upcoming releases in the Magicians: The Gathering section. Hereby the list so far:

Confusion A technique to practice and test your technical and presentational skills with.
Cut It 25 false two-packet cuts.
Interception An instant sandwich effect.
Jewel-cased Card through CD case.
Practical Pass The journey of Mark his take on the 'Pass'
Real Invisible Palm Mark his well-known take on the 'Invisible Palm' plot.
Repulse Control Albert his card control to wherever in the deck.
Resurrection Of The Double Undercut Our reply to Joel Paschall's 'Death To The Double Undercut'
Wild Sandwich Visual sandwich transpo.

We will have to do some of those releases first, before planning any other ones or else the list will never be completed. More information on the releases will be in the products their release threads.

la0o9 · 02-22-2011, 10:22 AM

"Resurrection Of The Double Undercut"

so... will Mark be teaching the people who buy the DVD ways to use the DUC more deceptively? or simply the basic DUC+ applications + one effect to use it with?

Mark · 02-22-2011, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by la0o9

"Resurrection Of The Double Undercut"

so... will Mark be teaching the people who buy the DVD ways to use the DUC more deceptively? or simply the basic DUC+ applications + one effect to use it with?

It will be an extremely cheap downloadable release with me teaching the DUC including one of my performance theories that can be very useful for all magicians' performances of whatever trick they do.

Fruglemonkey · 02-22-2011, 12:33 PM

Aw, no coin effects or gimmicks

la0o9 · 02-22-2011, 03:09 PM

@Fruggle: it's a pity... tho idk if Mark is able of coming up with new, practical, good gimmicks nowadays... i mean, with a new one going out every month or so( or rather, revamped old gimmicks with a few new applications)

Mark · 02-22-2011, 04:28 PM

Mayyyybe we will re-release 'Globe' (a.k.a. the world's hardest coin vanish) as a downloadable too. On the original DVD there were more coin vanishes like 'Ms. Pac-Man' but if this gets re-released it will all and only be 'Globe' itself.

Kieran Oloughlin · 02-23-2011, 06:28 AM

Wild Sandwich! Awesome! Will it teack on top of the world to?

la0o9 · 02-23-2011, 12:24 PM

I don't think there's anything used in Wild sandwich that is used in On top of the world, except may be the concept of 2 cards changing into 2 other... cause Albert didn't use the same control Mark did... idk if anyone actually know of a control that does what Mark's did... or can do that control as well as Mark did it...

Mark · 02-23-2011, 12:33 PM

Although 'Wild Sandwich' is a combination of 'Sandwitches' and 'On Top Of The World' (all of them invented in a row back in January '06), they all use entirely different techniques, yet using some similar principles.

'On Top Of The World' won't be released because such a release would be far too commercial. I have taught it to others personally though, and I probably will continu doing this.

s13zeTheDay · 02-23-2011, 04:03 PM

is there any chance of any of the previous releases being released in limited quantities?

Mark · 02-23-2011, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by s13zeTheDay

is there any chance of any of the previous releases being released in limited quantities?

Not the exact same releases, but for instance the 'Real Invisible Palm' and 'Practical Pass' (from 'King Of The Pass') are re-releases.

MrJack0fhearts · 03-10-2013, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark

Not the exact same releases, but for instance the 'Real Invisible Palm' and 'Practical Pass' (from 'King Of The Pass') are re-releases.

The "Practical Pass" was included with the "King of The Pass"-DVD?!
How come, that you have to produce it all over again, resulting in me waiting for it for over nine months now?

Mark · 03-11-2013, 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by MrJack0fhearts

The "Practical Pass" was included with the "King of The Pass"-DVD?!
How come, that you have to produce it all over again, resulting in me waiting for it for over nine months now?

There are a couple of answers to that, but let me start by saying I am very sorry and apologize for the terribly long wait. We never thought or expected it to take this long and although we do our very best, there is not much we can do these days to make the production go any faster as for these DVDs.

Having said that, I have spent days and weeks in total making up with buyers over Skype or Tinychat, showing them what they will be getting. Please feel free to add me to Skype or send me a message as for that anytime as well.

To answer the actual question, although the 'Practical Pass' was shown and taught on the 'King of the Pass' DVD, it was taught on there as part of a series of techniques and not in as much detail as it should and will be taught as a product on its own. The 'King of the Pass' will not be re-released for that would be unfair for all of its owners who purchased a very limited copy, and its format and content is totally different than that of the 'Practical Pass' as well.

Also, our previous DVDs were produced at, and by, a studio and printed/pressed by one-and-the-same DVD production company. In the meantime, this DVD company went bankrupt and we can't hire the studio again for that this has cost and would also now cost a lot of money. Unlike back then, I have to make a living all by myself too now. It's either the way it is or the DVDs would cost about twice as much for all these extra costs coming along, and there already are a lot more costs made than usually and originally would've been the case.

Shortly said, the reason it takes this long is that there have been a lot of unfortunate and unexpected events taking place since the pre-orders started, from being forced to move places, to three computer crashes (two of which essential for the DVD productions), and from the DVD production company going bankrupt to Google Adsense and YouTube taking away one of our major incomes and marketing tools.

Sorry once again and thank you for your understanding. Don't forget to hook up on Skype or to send me a message of when you have time for Tinychat.

Kieran Oloughlin · 02-24-2011, 07:43 AM

Jewel case sound intersting

Admin · 02-25-2011, 01:04 AM

A re-release of 'Globe' is a fact now. Coin magicians will have a whole lot to practice once it's out. Be prepared.

la0o9 · 02-25-2011, 06:22 AM

wish i was one of them... too bad then, Mark, do you plan on releasing Coinage at any time in the future?

Mark · 02-25-2011, 11:11 AM

Nope.. plus that it's still a work in progress as it's still slightly knacky.

02-21-2011, 07:01 AM	#1
Kieran Oloughlin Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Australia Posts: 414	What effects will be released in the store? On the darksleightz website I it showed the downloads that will be avalible. WHat do these downloads have in them and when will they be relesed? Aswell as that will there be effects that will be relesed? I would like to see coinage, on top of the world, and the city or paris relased.

02-21-2011, 11:26 AM	#3
la0o9 Move monkey atm Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Not where you'd want to go :P Posts: 747	i don't think Mark will be selling individual effects, more like basic and advanced techniques to accomplish some of his effects( or simply to accomplish classic plots with less flash), tho i wouldn't mind Mark selling those effects, i still don't know how he did "coinage", but i got a vague idea on " on top of the world" and i know exactly how he did "the city of Paris". in any case, the upcoming releases aren't going to involve those tricks... his website says so, but let's pray he will release "coinage" __________________ "Doubt isn't the same as saying people are bad, it simply means you actually care, 100% trust is nothing more than ignorance"~ Akiyama Shinichi- Liar Game "It's not the destination but the road to it that is worth the trip" "Be careful what you wish for... it might just come true"~ old saying "It's a small world, but only relatively" "Reality is not the world, it is the way humankind depicts the world, thus when you alter a person's way of seeing the world, you alter reality itself"

02-22-2011, 10:22 AM	#5
la0o9 Move monkey atm Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Not where you'd want to go :P Posts: 747	"Resurrection Of The Double Undercut" so... will Mark be teaching the people who buy the DVD ways to use the DUC more deceptively? or simply the basic DUC+ applications + one effect to use it with? __________________ "Doubt isn't the same as saying people are bad, it simply means you actually care, 100% trust is nothing more than ignorance"~ Akiyama Shinichi- Liar Game "It's not the destination but the road to it that is worth the trip" "Be careful what you wish for... it might just come true"~ old saying "It's a small world, but only relatively" "Reality is not the world, it is the way humankind depicts the world, thus when you alter a person's way of seeing the world, you alter reality itself"

02-22-2011, 03:09 PM	#8
la0o9 Move monkey atm Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Not where you'd want to go :P Posts: 747	@Fruggle: it's a pity... tho idk if Mark is able of coming up with new, practical, good gimmicks nowadays... i mean, with a new one going out every month or so( or rather, revamped old gimmicks with a few new applications) __________________ "Doubt isn't the same as saying people are bad, it simply means you actually care, 100% trust is nothing more than ignorance"~ Akiyama Shinichi- Liar Game "It's not the destination but the road to it that is worth the trip" "Be careful what you wish for... it might just come true"~ old saying "It's a small world, but only relatively" "Reality is not the world, it is the way humankind depicts the world, thus when you alter a person's way of seeing the world, you alter reality itself"

02-23-2011, 12:24 PM	#11
la0o9 Move monkey atm Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Not where you'd want to go :P Posts: 747	I don't think there's anything used in Wild sandwich that is used in On top of the world, except may be the concept of 2 cards changing into 2 other... cause Albert didn't use the same control Mark did... idk if anyone actually know of a control that does what Mark's did... or can do that control as well as Mark did it... __________________ "Doubt isn't the same as saying people are bad, it simply means you actually care, 100% trust is nothing more than ignorance"~ Akiyama Shinichi- Liar Game "It's not the destination but the road to it that is worth the trip" "Be careful what you wish for... it might just come true"~ old saying "It's a small world, but only relatively" "Reality is not the world, it is the way humankind depicts the world, thus when you alter a person's way of seeing the world, you alter reality itself"

02-21-2011, 07:09 AM	#2
VetoHero Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 2	I have spoke to Mark and he said they should be out soon. So just wait and be patient and yes I would like to see those illusions as well when available for purchase.

02-22-2011, 08:38 AM	#4
Admin Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 173	At http://darksleightz.itsesproductions.com/ you will find the upcoming releases in the Magicians: The Gathering section. Hereby the list so far: Confusion A technique to practice and test your technical and presentational skills with. Cut It 25 false two-packet cuts. Interception An instant sandwich effect. Jewel-cased Card through CD case. Practical Pass The journey of Mark his take on the 'Pass' Real Invisible Palm Mark his well-known take on the 'Invisible Palm' plot. Repulse Control Albert his card control to wherever in the deck. Resurrection Of The Double Undercut Our reply to Joel Paschall's 'Death To The Double Undercut' Wild Sandwich Visual sandwich transpo. We will have to do some of those releases first, before planning any other ones or else the list will never be completed. More information on the releases will be in the products their release threads.

02-22-2011, 12:33 PM	#7
Fruglemonkey Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 41	Aw, no coin effects or gimmicks

02-22-2011, 04:28 PM	#9
Mark Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 935	Mayyyybe we will re-release 'Globe' (a.k.a. the world's hardest coin vanish) as a downloadable too. On the original DVD there were more coin vanishes like 'Ms. Pac-Man' but if this gets re-released it will all and only be 'Globe' itself.

02-23-2011, 06:28 AM	#10
Kieran Oloughlin Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Australia Posts: 414	Wild Sandwich! Awesome! Will it teack on top of the world to?

02-23-2011, 12:33 PM	#12
Mark Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 935	Although 'Wild Sandwich' is a combination of 'Sandwitches' and 'On Top Of The World' (all of them invented in a row back in January '06), they all use entirely different techniques, yet using some similar principles. 'On Top Of The World' won't be released because such a release would be far too commercial. I have taught it to others personally though, and I probably will continu doing this.

02-23-2011, 04:03 PM	#13
s13zeTheDay Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 150	is there any chance of any of the previous releases being released in limited quantities? __________________ What you do in this world is a matter of no consequence. The question is, what can you make people believe you have done. --Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, A Study In Scarlet

02-24-2011, 07:43 AM	#17
Kieran Oloughlin Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Australia Posts: 414	Jewel case sound intersting

02-25-2011, 01:04 AM	#18
Admin Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 173	A re-release of 'Globe' is a fact now. Coin magicians will have a whole lot to practice once it's out. Be prepared.

02-25-2011, 06:22 AM	#19
la0o9 Move monkey atm Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Not where you'd want to go :P Posts: 747	wish i was one of them... too bad then, Mark, do you plan on releasing Coinage at any time in the future? __________________ "Doubt isn't the same as saying people are bad, it simply means you actually care, 100% trust is nothing more than ignorance"~ Akiyama Shinichi- Liar Game "It's not the destination but the road to it that is worth the trip" "Be careful what you wish for... it might just come true"~ old saying "It's a small world, but only relatively" "Reality is not the world, it is the way humankind depicts the world, thus when you alter a person's way of seeing the world, you alter reality itself"

02-25-2011, 11:11 AM	#20
Mark Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 935	Nope.. plus that it's still a work in progress as it's still slightly knacky.